Hasn't Teoh's family suffered enough?
YOURSAY 'A case of one dead man and one well-known pathologist - and two apprehensive governments conspire to cover the truth.'
Pornthip 'prevented' from entering Malaysia to testify
Goh Keat Peng:
A grieving family seeks justice and now has to resort to filing a civil suit which they hope will provide answers which to them (not to mention many in Malaysia) has not been forthcoming.
In the interests of justice and truth why is key witness Thai pathologist Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand being prevented from testifying in court?
Already a family has lost a beloved son, spouse and parent. Haven't they suffered enough without more obstacles being placed in their path to find satisfactory answers for their indescribable loss?
Ferdtan: A case of one dead man and one well-known pathologist - and two apprehensive governments conspire to cover the truth. This is a tale of two governments; one a sinner and the other aiding the sinner.
We can understand the fear of the Malaysian government as the purported cause of Teoh Beng Hock's death points at the federal government's involvement. However it is hard to understand the Thai government involvement into this matter?
Since Thai pathologist Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand is a government doctor so she has no choice but to follow her government's order.
We urge the only female PM of Thailand, Yingluck Shinawatra, to think of the Teoh family to let them have this last chance to get rightful restitution from the wrong doers.
Yingluck, think for a moment, not as a PM but as from a wife to another wife, a mother to another mother, a parent to another parent. If you can put aside politics for a moment to seek the right path in your decision, then Buddha bless your country.
CQ Muar: Ferdtan, you said all that needed to be said. We hope that Yingluck, being a mother herself, would look at this matter humanely and extend her assistance by permitting Pornthip the liberty to come to Malaysia.
After all, this is the basic human right which all countries needed to extend to one another in the pursuance for justice, regardless of the political links they might have entered into.
Surely murder is a grave matter, and a country or countries involved must look at it objectively and sincerely without any form of political influence or interference. Then, and only then, can they earn our respect in terms of dignity and honour.
Swipenter: Now it takes two governments to try to stop Teoh Beng Hock's family from getting justice.
My Opinion: If the government is innocent, why are they so afraid of this pathologist? Is it an adverse inference that the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) and the government (including Najib Abdul Razak) are guilty?
Fogbom: It may be quite a different consideration for the Thai government to refuse a party of Malaysians (judge, plaintiffs' counsel and related personnel) entry to Bangkok in pursuance of a Malaysian civil suit. For one thing, the Thai opposition parties and mass media have more teeth.
If they still oppose it, then maybe its time to reflect on the popular movie ‘The Terminal' starring Tom Hanks and arrange the five-day judicial sessions to be conducted at a cordoned-off section of the transit lounge of Don Muang Airport in Bangkok. This will also make for excellent international publicity.
Please don't give up so easily, lawyer Gobind Singh Deo. You are the scion of the illustrious Tiger of Jelutong. You are a great lion too and this case is yours. Fight and win.
In November 2011, the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission purportedly exercised universal jurisdiction to try and convict in absentia former US president George W Bush and former British prime minister Tony Blair for the invasion of Iraq.
In May 2012, the tribunal again under a purported exercise of universal jurisdiction took testimony from victims of torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, and convicted in absentia Bush, former US vice-president Dick Cheney and others and referred their findings to the chief prosecutor of the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
So, Gobind, if Dr Pornthip's testimony is of primary importance, please explore the possibility, under universal jurisdiction, of filing a case in Bangkok, summoning her there to be cross-examined in a Thai court under a Thai judge and giving the Malaysian defence team the opportunity to be present at that hearing.
The findings by the Thais may well be admissible before the Malaysian judge in the present case.
Opah: Pornthip is a Thai civil servant. If her government does not want her to testify then she cannot testify.
It does not matter whether the hearing is held in Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok or Timbuktu. That's the long arm of Najib's government at work.
Headhunter: People who are guilty are in great fear of the truth and being exposed. And they will do whatever is in their power to suppress it. We have seen it so many times already in Bolehland. Endless possibilities!
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