vox populi small thumbnail'I notice that the video track on the Jais raid has deliberately been slowed. That will make a charge appear like a stroll.'

Video clip of Jais raid leaked onto the Internet

1M: Those in the church were kind, nice and friendly people who know their God, and they do no harm to the society.

Do you have to barge into their dinner in such a manner, some of you wearing uniforms? This is intimidation.

Furthermore, blogger names like Screwkuat and Empayar Pemuda make me feel very uncomfortable. Our society will never see harmony for as long as some people behave like this.

DannyLoHH: Here we go again. On video, it looks like a raid, sounds like a raid, but Jais (Selangor Islamic Affairs Department) said it was not a raid.

So, what is a raid? From the Oxford English Dictionary, a surprise visit by police constitutes a raid.

So were the police there during the Jais visit? Was DUMC (Damansara Utama Methodist Church) informed in advance of the so-called ‘inspection' visit? If DUMC wasn't expecting the ‘inspection visit' then, it was a raid. Period.

YellowSub: If you walk into my house with a police team, it is called a raid. A raid is a raid. If you walk into the Vatican with the police, it is a raid.

SickNegara: To the barbarians, raid means shooting their way into the building. This is reason why nothing they do is severe enough, by their standard, to be considered wrong.

They could make women squad naked and take pictures of them and still claim that this is part and parcel of their standard procedures.

Wira: I notice that the video track has deliberately been slowed. That will make a charge appear like a stroll.

Gokula Krishnan: From the video clip, this appears pretty much like one of those conversion sessions I have had friends attended before. At least, this is what the video clip builds on my mind.

I would be a little more sensitive to general Muslim feelings in such cases given how sensitive the situation is in Malaysia.

Aquinas Says: Reading about this episode reminds me of what happened when I was a school boy. A friend of mine from a poor Christian family at the age of 13, was taken away from his family by Muslim authorities and converted to Islam.

The family was not allowed to see him until he became an adult. When I compare that story with the current one you can understand why I find this whole episode smacks of hypocrisy.

Even if one were to take an able bodied adult who is well to do but weak in heart or religious conviction and try to show him or her the best side of someone else's religion, then it can be construed as immoral.

Either case, if Jais has such proof, they should go ahead and prosecute.

SusahKes: Jais - a religious entity - needs a guy who calls himself ‘ScrewKuat' to defend them?


Ambiga: Select committee must consult civil society

Anonymous_4031: a) Illegal immigrants cannot, and must not, have the right to vote.

I understand that there are thousands, if not millions, of illegal immigrants in Sabah and elsewhere who became voters during Dr Mahathir Mohamad's time. Has the EC cleaned up the electoral roll? This has been a burning issue for decades.

b) Now we hear of instant permanent residents becoming instant voters, and with instant ‘clones' too.

What is the Election Commission/BN up to? Najib, it is not enough to just talk about "clean and fair elections"; just get it done. Clean up the electoral roll of phantom voters. Do it now. There is no need of a committee to look into it.

Keturunan Malaysia: S Ambiga, we are relying on you to stay focused.

If there is any sign that PM's proposal is but just a stunt and/or ploy to take the heat off from the demands of Malaysian voters to have fair, clean and transparent elections, please sound the bell for all of us.

We are willing to pile on much more heat until we achieve what we started with the first Bersih.

Bender: Start the reform by sacking each and everyone working in the EC and possibly NRD as well. They're the ones who's been doing all the dirty work. They need to be replaced with honest people.

FellowMalaysian: Ambiga need to tread with caution. Though 'something is better than nothing', based on Najib's past actions, you can never trust him as demonstrated in his retraction of the stadium offer for Bersih 2.0 event as well as his recent attendance in Anwar Ibrahim's trial, which resulted in him deciding not to appear in witness stand.

DAP's Tan Seng Giaw has asked for the terms of reference of the select committee to be spelled out.

Victor Johan: What the majority wants is the government to move ahead with ‘Now Showing' actions instead of the usual ‘Coming Soon'. The rakyat is waiting for the action to begin now.

Paul Warren: Don't be in such a hurry everybody. Wait for what Deputy Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin has to say about this. Then we know for sure if this panel is just all talk.


Ummi takes oath denying she had sex with Baginda

Docs: The country is up to the neck in problems and here we have Ummi Hafilda trying desperately to grab some limelight. Do we need such unnecessary distraction from issues of national importance?

As for Ummi, if you need the limelight, go sit under a streetlight.

YellowBoxer: About time our muftis come forward and tell us when is ‘sumpah laknat' done, and under what circumstances. People are making a mockery of a religious practice to boost their popularity or notoriety.

Courts, mosques, etc, should not allow it until it is first approved by a committee of non-partisan (if we can find them) religious elders.

Disbeliever: Is this form of swearing legally accepted in a court of law? Strange really; can any Muslim just swear and the courts are to accept it as the truth?

I'm sure God is not going to come down from heaven and strike her down for telling a lie. I'm not undermining Muslims or any other religious beliefs. It's just that I'm puzzled and perhaps someone from the legal fraternity could offer an explanation from a legal point of view.

Wira: What is left for Baginda Minda to do now is to reveal a mole or some birthmark in a normally covered portion of her body.

Neders: "To protect my dignity". My eyes played tricks with me. For a moment I thought she said, "to protect my virginity".

 

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